pleased to see that our friends in Calgary continue to make terrific
progress in the areas of preventing dog bites and educating owners as
well as children and utility workers about dog bite prevention.
Here's the story from the Calgary Herald:
Calgary dog attacks fall to lowest level in 25 years
City a leader in reducing canine problems, says top bylaw officer
By Sean Myers, Calgary Herald
Attacks by aggressive dogs are at the lowest level they've been in 25
years despite a steady population growth and the absence of
breed-specific legislation brought in to tackle canine issues in other
Despite the low numbers, Calgary's top bylaw
officer plans to delve deeper into the causes of dog attacks to try to
bring the incidents even lower.
population of Calgary has more than doubled since Bill started working
on his program. The ongong statistics are depicted graphically at this link. The impound and kill stats also illustrate the remarkable achievement by Calgary Animal Services.
Ontario Liberals were told of Calgary's success and asked to invite
Bill Bruce to present at the Committee Hearings in 2005. Calgary was
brought up throughout the hearings by various witnesses yet the
government was reluctant to hear what Bill had to say.
can only assume that's because they didn't want his remarks to be
available through Hansard since one of their arguments in court has
been that there is no alternative to their ill-considered approach to
dog owner management.
presentations do not appear in the record so are therefore not
available to the public. In the second snip, watch David Zimmer (Lib -
Willowdale and friend of the WSPA) dance around when asked to invite Mr
Bruce to present at Committee.
This was rigged from the start just as Bryant and McGuinty's law is completely rigged against dog owners.
approach. You received these many months back, and I'm sure you've received
them in the course of all these presentations. Their forward thinking has
worked for them for many years. Why can't it work here? Bill Bruce has even
offered to help set up and teach their approach to us here in Ontario. They
have approximately 90,000 licensed dogs in their city, and only five dogs
deemed vicious. That's five dogs — count `em on one hand — deemed vicious.
They are doing something right: zero tolerance for off-leash dogs and
unlicensed dogs, and strict requirements and high fines for owners who have
proved themselves incapable of being responsible dog owners.
Mr. Miller: Mr. Chair,
I have the director of animal and bylaw services for the city of Calgary, Mr.
Bill Bruce, who would like to appear before the committee, but because he's
employed by the city of Calgary and doesn't want to be seen to be interfering
in the affairs of Ontario, he needs to be formally invited by the committee
to be able to come before the committee. I would like the committee to invite
him to come before it. He has significant experience in animal control. The
city of Calgary has seen some significant reductions in animal bites. They've
had a 70% reduction in dog bites since they brought in their animal control
bylaws, and that has happened while the number of dogs in Calgary has
doubled. Mr. Bill Bruce would certainly be a very valuable person to lend his
experience to the committee, so I would move that the committee invite him to
appear before us.
Mr. Kormos: I don't
know the background of how this gentleman was brought to Mr. Miller's
attention, at least, but the fact is that here's a director of animal and
bylaw services for the city of Calgary. Reference has been made already to
the city of Winnipeg. I trust that other municipalities that have advocated
— and fairly enough, because they've implemented breed-specific bans — will
be called upon.
I don't know what the position is of
this gentleman from Calgary, but it seems to me that if the committee is
interested in getting the broadest range of information available to it –
gosh, we've got e-mails from people in other British colonies, Australia,
Great Britain. People are well aware — this has attracted attention
internationally. If there's expertise available, why would we possibly shut
the door on it? If these people are prepared to assist the committee, let's
go; let her rip. Let's have these people in front of us. Quite frankly,
whether they're from Calgary or not doesn't offend me. It's of even greater
interest because obviously you've got a different provincial jurisdiction. I
encourage people to support Mr. Miller's motion.
Mr. Miller: I would
just like to support that by asking why we would not try to learn from the
jurisdictions that have had the most success, and Calgary has had significant
success. They've reduced dog bites by 70%. Here we have the director of
animal and bylaw services willing to come before the committee, but he needs
a formal invite to be able to come because he doesn't want to be seen to be
interfering with the affairs of Ontario. They've had very significant success
with an animal control bylaw that's not breed-specific, and I think we can
learn from that.
If the end goal is to have the most
successful legislation and to improve this legislation, I believe we should
be inviting Mr. Bruce to come before this committee. I would ask for the
committee's support in inviting Mr. Bruce to come and lend his expertise to
Mr. Zimmer: This
matter of the witness list should have been — if you wanted to make
arrangements to raise this matter, it should have been raised before the
subcommittee. This committee has set aside four days for hearings. There is
an extensive witness list for each of the four days. Each of the witnesses
has been allocated a time frame of approximately 10 minutes. The difficulty
now with entertaining last-minute changes to the witness list is, where do we
fit them in, and if we say yes to Mr. Miller's request, what should we do
with other requests that might come up from any other members on the
committee? There has to be some end to the process.
Mr. Kormos: The issue
seems to be the reluctance of this municipal official to make a submission to
this committee without invitation. Why doesn't the committee invite him to
make a written submission? Surely that can't be offensive to anybody. It
doesn't occupy any time of the committee, but it –
Mr. Kormos's proposal to accommodate
this witness, or accommodate your wish to have him send in a written
submission at our invitation, satisfies your purpose and preserves the
integrity of the witness list.
Mr. McMeekin: I'll
build on that. I suspect your political acumen is probably correct, Mr.
Miller. I think the rationale for argument from this side is where do you
draw the line? New Brunswick's looked at it. The provincial government in
Australia has looked at breed bans. There are a number of cities. To have one
isolated person in particular who has indicated a desire to make a
presentation — I don't normally speak to amendments before they're made, but
I think on the surface, because we opened this up, there are at least a dozen
people I'd like to see invited. I think the concept of the written brief, as
Mr. Kormos has suggested and my colleague Mr. Zimmer has affirmed — and
hopefully you, sir, might look at — is a good way to go.
Mr. Miller: I would
certainly like to reiterate that I believe we can learn from Calgary's animal
control bylaw; I would be prepared to modify my motion to invite Mr. Bill
Bruce to make a written submission to this committee so that we may learn
from the city of Calgary.
The Chair: Mr. Miller
has amended his motion to read that Mr. Bill Bruce of the city of Calgary be
invited to submit a written brief to the committee. Is there any further
discussion? Shall I put the question?